RDRM33515 - Remittance Basis: Identifying Remittances: Specific Topics: Joint Accounts - example
Table to show the amounts credited to the account
The credits and the debits account can be analysed between Erica and John with the following results
Conditions of the mixed fund rules to be applied before every ‘transfer’
Apply the rules at ITA07/s809Q to the next ‘transfer’ to the UK, which is the cash withdrawal
Then apply the rules at ITA07/s809Q to the next ‘transfer’ to the UK, which is the mortgage payment
Erica and John have been married for several years, and currently live in the UK. John is domiciled within the UK. Erica is not domiciled in the UK. Erica decides to claim the remittance basis for this year.
Both Erica and John have employment income that is credited to the account. For most of the year Erica works in the UK but she also has a separate part-time employment with a foreign employer outside of the UK for part of the year.
Erica and John have a joint bank account in the Isle of Man. Into this account is paid both of their salaries, and some bank interest. They use the account to pay their household bills, including the mortgage on their jointly owned UK home.
Table to show the amounts credited to the account
| Date | Decriptor | Credit | Debit | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| - | Opening Balance | - | - | £0 |
| 30 April | UK salary (Erica) | £3,000 | - | £3,000 |
| 30 April | UK salary (John) | £2,000 | - | £5,000 |
| 30 April | Overseas salary (not subject to foreign tax) (Erica) | £2,000 | - | £7,000 |
| 30 April | Bank interest not taxed | £200 | - | £7,200 |
| 1 May | Direct debit - UK energy coy | - | (£200) | £7,000 |
| 5 May | Cash withdrawal (UK) | - | (£1,000) | £6,000 |
| 10 May | Cash withdrawal (UK) | - | (£1,000) | £5,000 |
| 17 May | Direct debit - mortgage | - | (£3,000) | £2,000 |
| 31 May | UK salary (Erica) | £3,000 | - | £5,000 |
| 31 May | UK salary (John) | £2,000 | - | £7,000 |
| 31 May | Overseas salary (not subject to foreign tax) (Erica) | £800 | - | £7,800 |
| 1 June | Direct debit - UK energy coy | - | (£200) | £7,600 |
| 5 June | Cash withdrawal (UK) | - | (£1,000) | £6,600 |
| 10 June | Cash withdrawal (UK) | - | (£800) | £5,800 |
| 17 June | Direct debit - mortgage | - | (£3,000) | £2,800 |
The credits and the debits account can be analysed between Erica and John with the following results
| Date | Descriptor | Credit (Erica) | Debit (Erica) | Balance (Erica) | Credit (John) | Debit (John) | Balnce (John) | Overall account balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 30 Apr | UK salary note 1 | £3,000 | - | £3,000 | - | - | - | £3,000 |
| 30 Apr | UK salary note 1 | - | - | - | £2,000 | - | £2,000 | £5,000 |
| 30 Apr | Overseas salary | £2,000 | - | £5,000 | - | - | - | £7,000 |
| 30 Apr | Bank interest note 2 | £100 | - | £5,100 | £100 | - | £2,100 | £7,200 |
| 1 May | DD to UK energy Co | - | £100 | £5,000 | - | £100 | £2,00 | £7,000 |
| 5 May | Cash w/drawn note 3 | - | £1,000 | £4,000 | - | - | - | £6,000 |
| 10 May | Cash w/drawn note 3 | - | - | - | - | £1,000 | £1,000 | £5,000 |
| 17 May | DD mortgage note 4 | - | £2,000 | £2,000 | - | £1,000 | £0 | £2,000 |
| 31 May | UK salary | £3,000 | - | £5,000 | - | - | - | £5,000 |
| 31 May | UK salary | - | - | - | £2,000 | - | £2,000 | £7,000 |
| 31 May | overseas salary | £800 | - | £5,800 | - | - | - | £7,800 |
| 1 June | DD to UK energy Co | - | £100 | £5,700 | - | £100 | £1,900 | £7,600 |
| 5 June | Cash w/drawn | - | £1,000 | £4,700 | - | - | - | £6,600 |
| 10 June | Cash w/drawn | - | - | - | - | £800 | £1,100 | £5,800 |
| 17 June | DD mortgage | - | £1,900 | £2,800 | - | £1,100 | £0 | £2,800 |
Note 1: Earned income is attributed to the employee only.
Note 2: Because this is a joint account, the interest arising on it is split equally between Erica and John.
Note 3: This money is withdrawn in the UK by John and Erica to meet their own personal expenditure, for example travel, meals and so on.
In this example John’s ‘personal expenditure’ can be attributed to his ‘income’ credits into the account. If instead the withdrawals by John were regarded as coming from Erica’s ‘portion’ of the pot, because John is a relevant person, and money has been brought into the UK by a relevant person, (so Condition A of ITA07/s809L(2)(a) is met (refer to RDRM33120: Condition A - money and property), there might still be a taxable remittance, with the tax due payable by Erica (see below).
Note 4: The mortgage payment is made to a UK bank. The mortgage is held on John and Erica’s UK home and is a joint debt of Erica and John, and each contributes half of the cost. To the extent that John has money in the account it can be accepted that he has used his taxed income to pay his share of the mortgage.
Money has been brought into the UK to pay this mortgage, so Condition A of ITA07/s809L(2)(a) is met (refer to RDRM33120: Condition A - money and property) and there is a ‘transfer’ from a mixed fund.
Because this is a mixed fund ITA07/s809Q(2) is in point (refer to RDRM35230: Remittances from mixed funds). So in order to determine whether this money is regarded as consisting of, or deriving from, a remittance basis users foreign income or gains (such that there is a taxable remittance under Condition B of ITA07/s809L(2)(a)) it is necessary to look at the composition of the fund immediately before the ‘transfer’.
This shows that £2,000 of the mortgage payment made on 17 May must be attributable to Erica’s income or gains in the mixed fund. Similarly, £1,900 of the mortgage payment of 17 June is attributable to Erica’s income in the mixed fund.
So far as Erica is concerned, her share of the account shows (for the purposes of calculating if and to what extent she has made a taxable remittance of her overseas income) is as follows:
Erica’s share of the account
| Date | Descriptor | Credit | Debit | Category (S809Q(4)) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 30 April | UK salary | £3,000 | - | Para (a) |
| 30 April | Overseas salary (not subject to foreign tax) | £2,000 | - | Para (b) |
| 30 April | Bank interest | £100 | - | Para (d) |
| 1 May | Direct Debit (energy coy | - | £100 | - |
| 10 May | Cash | - | £1,000 | - |
| 17 May | Direct Debit (mortgage) | - | £2,000 | - |
| 31 May | UK salary | £3,000 | - | Para (a) |
| 31 May | Overseas salary | £800 | - | Para (b)) |
| 1 June | Direct Debit (energy) | - | £100 | - |
| 5 June | Cash | - | £1,000 | - |
| 17 June | Direct Debit (mortgage) | - | £1,900 | - |
Applying the rules at ITA07/s809Q (refer to RDRM35230 Remittances from mixed funds) to the first ‘transfer’ to the UK, which is the payment to the energy company on 1 May. Remember the mixed fund rules require the account to be analysed before every ‘transfer’
Conditions of the mixed fund rules to be applied before every ‘transfer’
Step 1
Identify the ‘amount of transfer’ in the relevant year - £100
Analyse mixed fund to identify the separate amounts of income, capital gains and capital present for each tax year immediately before the date of transfer:
- Para (a) employment income (UK employment income) £3,000
- Para (b) relevant foreign earnings (not subject to a foreign tax) £2,000
- Para (d) relevant foreign income (not subject to a foreign tax) £100
Step 2
Identify the earliest paragraph in (step 1), for the relevant year, which has an amount of income or gain in the mixed fund - para (a) £3,000
Step 3
If the amount at step 2 is equal to or more than the amount of the transfer, treat the whole of the remaining amount of the transfer as coming from that item of income or gain.
So, Erica’s transfer of £100 is treated as coming from her UK employment income; it is not thus a ‘taxable’ remittance when brought to the UK.
Then apply the rules at ITA07/s809Q (refer to RDRM35230 Remittances from mixed funds) to the next ‘transfer’ to the UK, which is the cash withdrawal.
Apply the rules at ITA07/s809Q to the next ‘transfer’ to the UK, which is the cash withdrawal
Step 1
Identify the ‘amount of transfer’ in the relevant year - £1,000.
Analyse mixed fund to identify the separate amounts of income, capital gains and capital present for each tax year immediately before the date of the transfer:
- Para (a) employment income (UK employment income) £2,900
- Para (b) relevant foreign earnings (not subject to a foreign tax) £2,000
- Para (d) relevant foreign income (not subject to a foreign tax) £100
Step 2
Identify the earliest paragraph (in step 1), for the relevant year, which has an amount of income or gains in the mixed fund - £2,900
Step 3
If the amount at step 2 is equal to or more than the amount of transfer (the last time step 3 was completed), treat the whole of the remaining amount of the transfer as coming from that item of income or gain.
So Erica’s transfer of £1,000 is treated as coming from her UK employment income; it is not thus a ‘taxable’ remittance when brought to the UK.
Then apply the rules at ITA07/s809Q (refer to RDRM35230 Remittances from mixed funds) to the next ‘transfer’ to the UK, which is the mortgage payment.
Then apply the rules at ITA07/s809Q to the next ‘transfer’ to the UK, which is the mortgage payment
Step 1
Identify the ‘amount of transfer’ in the relevant year - £2,000
Analyse the mixed fund to identify the separate amounts of income, capital gains and capital present for each tax year immediately before the date of transfer:
- Para (a) employment income (UK employment income) £1,900
- Para (b) relevant foreign earnings (not subject to a foreign tax) £2,000
- Para (d) relevant foreign income (not subject to a foreign tax) £100
Step 2
Identify the earliest paragraph (in step 1) for the relevant year, which has an amount of income or gain in the mixed fund - para (a) £1,900
Step 3
Where the amount transfered is greater than the amount identified at step 2, the amount of transfer is treated as reduced by the amount identified at step 2 - £2,000 minus £1,900 equals £100.
Step 4
Find the next paragraph/amount for that tax year. In the order of preference listed above repeat steps 2 and 3.
Step 3
If the amount at step 2 is equal to or more than the amount of transfer, (the last time step 3 was completed), treat the whole of the remaining amount of the transfer as coming from that item or income or gain.
£1,900 of the transfer is treated as coming from Erica’s UK employment income; it is not thus a ‘taxable’ remittance when brought to the UK. The remaining £100 is treated as a remittance of £100 of Erica’s untaxed overseas earnings.